Posts Tagged ‘natural-born citizen’
Posted by That Other Mike on 23/09/2011
Exhibit A: This bucket of loose stool water, written by Joizy-based Mario “The Putzo” Appuzo, notorious ambulance chaser and infrequent contributor to the pit of slime known as the Pest & E-Fail, home of hobby-seditionist and professional harp-wrangler Sharon Rondeau.
This pail of arse gravy is being pimped by his Renfield, former Lieutenant Commander Charles Kerchner (obviously still butthurt over the fact that his noxious lawsuit was so casually dismissed by the Supremes). And it is the same unfounded nonsense that Mario has been squeezing out ever since he decided to squat down and drop a dookie on more than 200 years of law and precedent.
Mario, here’s the thing – repeating the same lie a thousand times does not magically make it true. You might want to clue Igor into that. Arguing contra legem is not an effective way to prove your case, even if done ad nauseam.
So, the question arises, a birther’s dilemma, if you will: Is Mario simply a shyster or a lunatic?
If he sincerely believes what he’s pushing, not only is he on the wrong side of two centuries of American case law and centuries more of common law before it, but also flatly in denial of those same things, flatly in denial of reality itself – in sum, if he believes exactly what he says, he is a lunatic.
On the other side of things, if he is simply pushing an unscrupulous agenda to con money out of cretins and birthers (but I repeat myself) like Kerchner by lying about what he knows to be true, he could very well be called a shyster.
So, which is it, Mario – crazy or con artist?
Posted in Politics | Tagged: barack obama, birtherism rots your brain, birthers, calvin's case, common law, cretins, kerchner v obama, law, legal, mario apuzzo, natural-born, natural-born citizen, natural-born subject, obama | Leave a Comment »
Posted by That Other Mike on 30/04/2011
Tarpon and many other birthers think that Natual-born Citizen means born to two citizen parents. This, birther folk, is bulshit; it’s something that Leo Donofrio created out of thin air a couple of years ago, based on a mistranslation of Vattel and a misapprehension of Vattel’s relative importance.
Natural-born has always meant a citizen from birth. Nothing more, nothing less; it’s not some kind of super citizen category. Your frightened little appeals to emotion about the children of foreign dictators and terrorists are simply a cloak to conceal a hefty dollop of racism and xenophobia.
This is the problem with the internet; on the one hand, it’s great because it allows everyone a voice, but on the other, it’s atrocious because it allows everyone a voice. It does nobody any good if you use your freedom of speech to tell lies and show how ignorant you are.
ETA: You can add this joker as well.
Posted in Politics | Tagged: birth certificate, birthers, bullshit, constitution, leo donofrio, natural-born, natural-born citizen, racism | Leave a Comment »
Posted by That Other Mike on 09/04/2011
Silly birthers! Unless your parents are diplomats, parentage is irrelevant for determining natural-born citizenship.
Your arguments are ridiculous, and completely unsupported by the law, case rulings and the Constitution. Still, that’s never stopped you before.
And as to Trump’s letter to the NYT – well, it’s hardly Presidential material, is it? It reads more like a snarky adolescent taking potshots at someone who’s outdone him in a debate.
Then again, it’s not really an issue, is it? The Donald (and his Tribble) will never be President. He’s simply concern trolling to boost ratings for his failing TV show, and I would lay good money on his never filing to run for office; he’s probably too busy being an aging roué with ever more ridiculous hair. Hey, Donald – with all the money you currently have (until the next time you run your business into the ground!), you could at least fork out a few dollars for a mirror or two.
Posted in Politics | Tagged: aging roué, barack obama, birth certificate, Combover or really bad wig? You decide!, donald trump, idiots, ignorance, morons, natural-born, natural-born citizen, president, silly birthers | Leave a Comment »
Posted by That Other Mike on 22/05/2010
The answer to your question is “No”. You and Lakin are ignorant tools who don’t understand the law or the Constitution you seem to fetishize.
I’ll be clearer and break it down for you.
The Constitution specifies that only a natural-born citizen can be President. Every particle and iota of law relating to the subject states that a natural-born subject is one born a citizen. Pursuant to his valid Hawaii birth certificate, the President is a natural-born citizen.
The offence that Lakin is charged with if failure to report for movement. This order and its subsequent disobedience don’t relate to President Obama’s birthplace, so even if discovery could be ordered, it wouldn’t cover Obama’s birth certificate. Furthermore, even if Obama somehow were proved ineligible for the Presidency and Congress ordered his removal, Lakin would still be charged, because he failed to obey a valid order – not only is Obama not in his chain of command which gave the order, he’d also be a de facto officer – meaning that any official acts done by someone later found to be ineligible for an elected or appointed post remain in force. This doctrine is in place precisely to counter the kind of idiocy that Lakin is engaging in and which you are encouraging.
In short, you and Lakin both qualify for the title of ignoramus, and both of you should STFU before you embarrass yourselves any further.
P.S. Your commenters are fairly dumb too, although I’m not surprised; they’d have to be to agree with you.
Posted in Politics | Tagged: birfoons, birth certificate, bithers, constitution, greg goss is a tool, idiots, lakin, natural-born citizen, obama, Politics | 4 Comments »
Posted by That Other Mike on 23/04/2010
Posted in Politics | Tagged: birfoon, birthers, constitution, idiots, jenni4hillary, lolwut, mattie, myiq2xu, natural-born citizen, Pumas, riverchucky, riverdaughter, the confluence | 1 Comment »
Posted by That Other Mike on 07/11/2009
Dear “Dr” Kate :
Following my previous post, I thought I’d check in, see if maybe you’d actually, you know, grown a brain cell or two in the meantime.
Unfortunately, this seems not to have happened – you’re still an ignorant douchesack. Have fun propagating your failed memes!
The Reality-Based Community
Posted in Politics | Tagged: birthers, dr kate is wrong about everything, fake doctor, ignorance, native-born citizen, natural-born citizen, Politics, racist shitbags, the stupid | 7 Comments »
Posted by That Other Mike on 02/11/2009
“Dr” Kate thinks that Congress needs remedial education about the meaning of “natural-born citizen”. She thinks someone else needs remedial education on that topic? Now, there’s some irony for you!
“Dr” Kate, Remedial Education for Congress: Natural Born Citizen
If it ain’t White, it ain’t right!
Here’s the thing, Kate – you’re just wrong. In fact, scratch that. You’re so far from being right that wrong is a little town in the distance where people will stare at you in disbelief and mutter under their breath, and where setting foot into the local tavern will result in a sudden hushed silence while the jukebox plays muted country and western in the background.
You’re so far off the truth that even 200 years of jurisprudence, Constitutional opinion and the views on the subject of the people you claim to revere won’t convince you. Vattel is, in Constitutional terms, worth less than a bucket of warm piss – not unlike your own views on the subject.
So, yeah, I would say that remedial education on the subject is needed. You got that part right; the question of who needs it, of course, is another matter entirely.
Posted in Politics | Tagged: congress, constitution, dr kate is a big sack of fail, fake doctor, natural-born, natural-born citizen, Politics, racists, right-wing douchebags, vattel is wrong | 4 Comments »
Posted by That Other Mike on 25/01/2009
So, a few posts back, I spanked someone going by the name of Interested Bystander regarding his conspicuous display of teh stupid about Obama’s citizenship on a conspiracy nut blog called James4America. You can read my snark over here. It are teh funneez.
Well, it seems that IB returned in the meantime, not having satisfied his urge to be bent over and have his bottom reddened, and spewed a whole new deluge of nonsense in response. Apparently, he thought I was just too, too beastly to him, and decided to
climb on his high horse attempt to take the moral high ground, by refusing to come over here and play. I, of course, having no self-control when it comes to nom-ing on the tiny living brains of wingnuts, just had to dip in again and give him another dose of the public humiliation he so strongly desires, the naughty little boy.
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Posted in Politics | Tagged: 14th Amendment, barack obama, citizenship, constitution, il brule, immigration, Interested Bystander, it burns!, james4america, le sigh, military, natural-born citizen, obama, perkins v elg, Politics, stupid, wong kim ark | 6 Comments »
Posted by That Other Mike on 18/01/2009
Trusted since 1947, heavy-duty Reynolds Wrap is perfect for roasting, grilling and the construction of hats to keep out evil CIA mind control waves!
Le sigh, as they say in France. Or not.
I’m a person who’s interested in politics generally. I try to keep up with the news via a number of source as much as possible, and I frequently read assorted blogs of various political stripes and persuasions, just to keep my ear on the ground. One of the ways I find them is via links on other people’s pages, which is how I first saw Rumproast; another is by looking through RSS feeds and the tag listings on WordPress. Read the rest of this entry »
Posted in Politics | Tagged: barack obama, birth certificate, blogging, election, hawaii, honolulu, Interested Bystander, internet, james4america, libel, natural-born citizen, obama, Politics, president, president-elect, wordpress | 5 Comments »
Posted by That Other Mike on 15/12/2008
Following the dismissal of Donofrio’s spurious lawsuit, the Wrotnowski suit has also been denied cert.
Via Ed Darrell, from the AP:
Court won’t review Obama’s eligibility to serve
6 hours ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has turned down another appeal arguing Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because of his citizenship.
The challenge by Cort Wrotnowski of Greenwich, Conn., was denied Monday without comment.
Wrotnowski argued that Obama was a British subject at birth and therefore cannot meet the requirement for becoming president.
He wanted the high court to halt presidential electors from meeting to formally elect Obama as president.
Echoing an appeal that was rejected by justices last week, Wrotnowski said that since Obama had dual nationality at birth — his mother was American, his Kenyan father was a British subject — he cannot possibly be a “natural born citizen.”
The sad thing is that this only seems to be spurring the wingnuts on further, as in here, here, and here (for more, visit the Obama and Birth Certificate tags).
Apparently all of their ranting, raving and nonsense about natural-born citizens and the increasingly finer and finer shades of the “true” meaning of the term have failed to impress anyone; the claim is not only dead in the water, but floating belly up.
Not that this’ll mean anything to them, as I said; these are the same people who think Clinton killed Vince Foster, after all. Facts and reason have never exactly been their strong suits before, so this is unlikely to change any minds. Many of them seem to have sensed defeat and are refocusing their efforts on the Blagojevich non-scandal, especially WingNut-in-Chief, Pam Geller, of the Google-hating paranoia-fest known as Atlas
We’ll see what happens; personally, I don’t think these people can be reasoned with, and that they’ll remain at a low simmer of lunatic resentment until 2012, when they will resurface in support of Palin and promptly be told to fuck off with their old, discredited stories already.
Posted in Politics | Tagged: 2008, 2009, atlasshrugs2000, barack obama, birth certificate, blogging, citizenship, daragh murphy, election, electoral college, idiots, lunacy, mccain, natural-born citizen, news, obama, pam geller, puma, rightwing, SCOTUS, supreme court, texas darlin, wingnuts | 9 Comments »