Yet more evidence that birtherism rots your brain

This time, it’s unlicensed “pastoral therapist” and crazypants blogger, Sam Sewell, who seems to think that this gives any law enforcement officer in the US the right to take a peek at Obama’s birth certificate. Yes, kids, you guessed it – it’s yet another “Any day now, this’ll be the thing that sinks the USURPERTRON!” moment (Usurpertron pictured at right, only $14.99 in all good local stores!).

Does the law say what Sam thinks? Sadly, no. The legislation refers to Haw. Rev. Stat. § 710-1000(13), which reads

(13) “Law enforcement officer” means any public servant, whether employed by the State or subdivisions thereof or by the United States, vested by law with a duty to maintain public order or, to make arrests for offenses or to enforce the criminal laws, whether that duty extends to all offenses or is limited to a specific class of offenses;

meaning Hawaiian or Federal law enforcement. Oops, Sam. You kind of made a booboo there.

Your second mistake, Mr Bond, was not actually reading beyond the part which tickled your fantasy; namely, that the PDF you linked to is not the law at present, so your whole post, while stupid, is also moot.

Actually, that’s bullshit

Tarpon and many other birthers think that Natual-born Citizen means born to two citizen parents. This, birther folk, is bulshit; it’s something that Leo Donofrio created out of thin air a couple of years ago, based on a mistranslation of Vattel and a misapprehension of Vattel’s relative importance.

Natural-born has always meant a citizen from birth. Nothing more, nothing less; it’s not some kind of super citizen category. Your frightened little appeals to emotion about the children of foreign dictators and terrorists are simply a cloak to conceal a hefty dollop of racism and xenophobia.

This is the problem with the internet; on the one hand, it’s great because it allows everyone a voice, but on the other, it’s atrocious because it allows everyone a voice. It does nobody any good if you use your freedom of speech to tell lies and show how ignorant you are.

ETA: You can add this joker as well.

Birthers – still racist morons

As predicted, following the release of certified copies of the President’s so-called long form birth certificate, the idiots have moved the goalposts.

This is why I think this was an unwise move on the part of the White House. The birthers don’t care about evidence; if they did, the birth certificate released in 2008 would’ve made them shut up and go away.

What the birthers care about is getting the Black guy out of the White House, and every piece of evidence presented to them will simply result in a new demand – witness the idiocy of Larry Wells, as linked above. Shown evidence of the so-called long form, without pause he then demands the President’s school records, as if that had any bearing on his fitness or eligibility to the office.

That’s why the claims of simply being defenders of the Constitution ring hollow; why the cries that releasing the original documentation would be enough sounded so false.

Nothing will ever be enough, because the birthers have made their minds up – they think Barack Obama is not a legitimate President because he’s Black, and they will go to any lengths to hold onto that.

ETA: Cogent analysis at the OC from Dr C as well.

ETA: Andrew Sullivan forfeits the last, tiniest iota of credibility he had on making cogent political analysis at the Daily Beast by putting on his clown shoes and splashing about in the eligibility muck. Enjoy your red nose, Andy.

ETA: Visit Rumproast for some snark on it. And be their fans, also, too; they’re actually all very nice, and the whole snarling and teeth showing is just an act. Except for Kevin, who consumes puppies on a daily basis.

ETA: See also Patrick’s take on it. As usual, some quality writing and analysis; if you’re not already a fan of Bad Fiction, you should be.

ETA: Further news via the BBC. Worldclass douchecanoe and fuckhead extraordinaire Joseph Farah of WingNutDaily infamy weighs in as his mealticket starts to crumble:

It remains unclear whether the release of the birth certificate will satisfy the most hard-core birthers.

Joseph Farah, chief executive of birther-orientated website WorldNetDaily.com, said on the site the document “raises as many questions as it answers”.

“It is important to remember there are still dozens of other questions concerning this question of eligibility… concerning Barack Obama’s parentage, his adoption, his citizenship status throughout his life and why he continues to cultivate a culture of secrecy around his life,” he said.

Well, you would say that, Joe. You’ve been making a living off being a liar about this for a couple of years now; why would additional evidence stop you? What a piece of work you are, you obnoxious little fuck-knuckle.

ETA: The President’s address on the subject below the jump. He just ripped the birthers a new one; essentially the content is “Grow the fuck up, you stupid, silly children. When you’re ready to be grown-ups, you can find us sitting at the adults’ table, trying to solve some real problems.”

Silly Birthers

Silly birthers! Unless your parents are diplomats, parentage is irrelevant for determining natural-born citizenship.

Your arguments are ridiculous, and completely unsupported by the law, case rulings and the Constitution. Still, that’s never stopped you before.

And as to Trump’s letter to the NYT – well, it’s hardly Presidential material, is it? It reads more like a snarky adolescent taking potshots at someone who’s outdone him in a debate.

Then again, it’s not really an issue, is it? The Donald (and his Tribble) will never be President. He’s simply concern trolling to boost ratings for his failing TV show, and I would lay good money on his never filing to run for office; he’s probably too busy being an aging roué with ever more ridiculous hair. Hey, Donald – with all the money you currently have (until the next time you run your business into the ground!), you could at least fork out a few dollars for a mirror or two.

Silly Birthers!

That’s not a birth certificate, silly birthers.

Birth certificates are issued by an entity with the authority to do so. That is a hospital souvenir. I wonder why the birfoons aren’t clamouring for his real birth certificate like they did with Obama? What are the major points of difference between Trump and Obama? One’s a morally and literally bankrupt jerkwad without a birth certificate, the other one’s the President. Oh, and Trump’s White, although I’m sure race has nothing to do with the birthers and their jabbering.

If Trump wants to run for the Presidency, he’s going to have to come up with better than that.

Why won’t he show his real birth certificate? Where’s the birth certificate, Donald?

ETA: See also. And also…

An Open Letter to Greg Goss

Dear Greg,

The answer to your question is “No”. You and Lakin are ignorant tools who don’t understand the law or the Constitution you seem to fetishize.

I’ll be clearer and break it down for you.

The Constitution specifies that only a natural-born citizen can be President. Every particle and iota of law relating to the subject states that a natural-born subject is one born a citizen. Pursuant to his valid Hawaii birth certificate, the President is a natural-born citizen.

The offence that Lakin is charged with if failure to report for movement. This order and its subsequent disobedience don’t relate to President Obama’s birthplace, so even if discovery could be ordered, it wouldn’t cover Obama’s birth certificate. Furthermore, even if Obama somehow were proved ineligible for the Presidency and Congress ordered his removal, Lakin would still be charged, because he failed to obey a valid order – not only is Obama not in his chain of command which gave the order, he’d also be a de facto officer – meaning that any official acts done by someone later found to be ineligible for an elected or appointed post remain in force. This doctrine is in place precisely to counter the kind of idiocy that Lakin is engaging in and which you are encouraging.

In short, you and Lakin both qualify for the title of ignoramus, and both of you should STFU before you embarrass yourselves any further.

Mike

P.S. Your commenters are fairly dumb too, although I’m not surprised; they’d have to be to agree with you.

PUMA Stupidity, Part 75 Million

Shorter Madamab, Feminist Friday: A Pattern Begins, The Widdershins:
Great! Bad enough that we have an uppity inadequate Black male as President, now the colored women want in on the act! Don’t you know that the only legitimate female politicians are White?

Madamab is one of the leading lights of the PUMA movement, in that she’s whiny, stupid, short-sighted, self-absorbed and frequently crypto-racist. She basically exemplifies what the PUMAs are all about – she has been shilling for the HRC cause for a long time, and when that went South, she and her ilk understandably transferred their allegiance to Sarah Palin.

You can see why, really – Palin and Clinton are so alike in temperament, policy and intelligence.

Bonus points for Madamab’s barely-hidden racist tendencies – she’s also been a guest writer at The Confluence, the idiotic PUMA blog which skirts a fine line with dogwhistles. She’s been especially notable over there for her short one act plays, which demonstrate the same fine grasp of language and nuance as evinced by her heroine, Sarah Palin.

This is the same blog which has been host to the insane dakinikat, the dangerous jenni4hillary and the utterly loathsome shitheel myiq2xu; when the whole Reverend Wright/scary-black-man-preacher right-wing meme was in full flow, there was a lot of whining about judging people by the company they keep. Funny they don’t extend that to themselves.

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Le sigh, as they say in France. Or not.

I’m a person who’s interested in politics generally. I try to keep up with the news via a number of source as much as possible, and I frequently read assorted blogs of various political stripes and persuasions, just to keep my ear on the ground. One of the ways I find them is via links on other people’s pages, which is how I first saw Rumproast; another is by looking through RSS feeds and the tag listings on WordPress.

SCOTUS denies election stay

Following the dismissal of Donofrio’s spurious lawsuit, the Wrotnowski suit has also been denied cert.

Via Ed Darrell, from the AP:

Court won’t review Obama’s eligibility to serve

6 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has turned down another appeal arguing Barack Obama is ineligible to be president because of his citizenship.

The challenge by Cort Wrotnowski of Greenwich, Conn., was denied Monday without comment.

Wrotnowski argued that Obama was a British subject at birth and therefore cannot meet the requirement for becoming president.

He wanted the high court to halt presidential electors from meeting to formally elect Obama as president.

Echoing an appeal that was rejected by justices last week, Wrotnowski said that since Obama had dual nationality at birth — his mother was American, his Kenyan father was a British subject — he cannot possibly be a “natural born citizen.”

The sad thing is that this only seems to be spurring the wingnuts on further, as in here, here, and here (for more, visit the Obama and Birth Certificate tags).

Apparently all of their ranting, raving and nonsense about natural-born citizens and the increasingly finer and finer shades of the “true” meaning of the term have failed to impress anyone; the claim is not only dead in the water, but floating belly up.

Not that this’ll mean anything to them, as I said; these are the same people who think Clinton killed Vince Foster, after all. Facts and reason have never exactly been their strong suits before, so this is unlikely to change any minds. Many of them seem to have sensed defeat and are refocusing their efforts on the Blagojevich non-scandal, especially WingNut-in-Chief, Pam Geller, of the Google-hating paranoia-fest known as Atlas Scrubs Shrugs.

We’ll see what happens; personally, I don’t think these people can be reasoned with, and that they’ll remain at a low simmer of lunatic resentment until 2012, when they will resurface in support of Palin and promptly be told to fuck off with their old, discredited stories already.